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#21 ·
Donna I am so very sorry to read this .. I hope Mia, Buddy and you are all ok ...

Some people shock me .. how rude ... the friendly approach would have been to catch Buddy for you and be polite about the situation ..

Please don’t let this knock you as a dog owner and I hope Buddy continues to be his bouncy self on tomorrows walk :) :) he can bounce over to Honey and Picnic any day, we will welcome him with loving arms ... mainly me, for a Buddy cuddle xxx
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
To be honest i do always ask however on the odd occasion he has spotted a dog further away and ran after it and there was no way i could keep up ,lately if i see a dog ive put him on his lead whatever, its just today i didnt see the dog however the man saw me and Buddy.
So how would you stop a dog running after another dog in that stituation?
 
#23 ·
Sometimes it just cannot be helped you should not have been subject to verbal abuse. You did not set out to upset anyone so just put it down to experience and carry on as normal. It is not easy to be one step ahead of your dog all the time!
 
#24 ·
I am so sorry that this has happened to you Donna but don't let it put you off letting Buddy off his lead! I took Beau for a walk with a friend on Sunday and as she hasn't been well plus her recall is fairly non existent I kept her on an a flippy lead! We had several dogs running up to us or following us and found it quite funny as Beau loved it though I did feel a bit sorry for her as she couldn't run around with them and also for the owners who were all very apologetic. I would have loved to have had a real life teddy bear like Buddy bouncing after us :) It's a shame this dog's owners didn't behave in the same friendly way their dog did and the man was obviously a complete ignoramus (I love this word) as there was no need to swear in front of a lady and child! Big hugs to you, Mia and Buddy xxx
 
#25 ·
I make no apologies - I know Buddy and it is so obvious that he does not have an aggressive bone in his body! He is the most playful loveable Cockapoo - a gentle giant whom I would trust completely with my puppy Clyde.
How anyone could feel threatened and swear at him and dare to kick him is beyond me. If this man was nervous of his dogs reaction then all he had to do was grab Buddys collar and hold him until Donna could catch up and take control - he was with his wife so what was the issue?
I am so angry that he felt the need to kick Buddy and to swear in front of a child - I suspect he was an unsavoury character to behave in this way! hugs to Buddy, Donna and Mia x
 
#26 ·
What a to**er what was the actual problem with him his dog was off the lead so was yours all that swearing is verbal abuse especially in front of a child disgusting it's difficult when you have your children there as if it was me I would of wanted to say a few f words back!!!

I hope you feel better soon poor buddy xxxx
 
#28 ·
Hi Donna. I was really sorry to hear about your walk. I had a really upsetting walk myself a few weeks ago. Pippa my 5 and a half month old ran up to a man and his little boy to say hello whilst we were walking in the woods. Pippa jumped to say hello and the man started screaming and shouting at me. I apologised but he kept on shouting and said that puppy's should be on leads. I went home very upset and my daughter was in tears. It does knock your confidence. Every time im out walking and I see someone without a dog I'm frantically trying to call her back to get her lead on. I'm hoping my confidence gets better as time goes on and I'm sure yours will as well.
 
#29 ·
I'm so sorry Donna you had such a horrible experience. Try not to let is knock your confidence, it wasn't your fault at all. Our puppies are at that adolescent stage and Bess, like Buddy, just loves to greet other dogs and play ... she generally flops down on her back submissively and gets covered in dirt and leaves!:laugh: I only let her go and greet if I'm sure it will be well received and the other dog will be fine with it. We do meet quite a lot of "regulars" on walks.

Re calling her back, I find it's only successful if I call her the minute she thinks of running off (if she's already half way there it's unlikely to work). She's very food oriented so knowing she will get something for coming back helps. But the biggest help is using a whistle (four sharp pips), it seems to work much better than calling her name. I have the whistle handy at all times while walking.

My dog trainer said to make the whistle useful you should use it every time you feed the dog at home and do this for a fortnight.

Just keep being consistent, the adolescent phase will pass. :):hug:
 
#30 ·
Hi Donna,so sorry to hear about your awful experience,what a horrible man!! What he should have done was stop and wait for you to get buddy instead of swearing and shouting like that,especially in front of a child and he surely must be breaking the law kicking buddy,thats animal abuse! Dont let idiots like that put you off,a long line lead does sound like a dab idea,hope it goes well and big hugs to buddy xxx
 
#31 ·
Hi hope youre feeling a bit better,its not worth letting some ignorant git upset you as everyone says you didnt do anything wrong its awful to say but there is quite a few people like that,my buddy is not very good off the lead he just thinks everyone wants to play,lve kept him on his extending lead for the last 2wks its just hit and miss if he comes when called or not and he just loves people and he expects them to love him but obviously not everyone does they are so lovable dogs its hard to understand anyone that doesnt like them.
 
#33 ·
DONNA said:
was your puppy like this at 10mths?? ie: would they run off whenever they caught sight of another dog ? and would you struggle with the recall when they were playing with another dog??
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Yes!!! Biscuit has started doing this already at 6 months! He can run quite a distance away from me to play with another dog. He is at his worst in an open public park but better on rural paths and woods where he seems a bit more cautious. The only way I can get him back is to walk off as I can see that he keeps looking at me to check my position. The problem with walking off is I worry that the other owners think I'm negligent but it works rather than coming after him and turning the whole thing into a game!

I think what Buddy is doing is totally normal for a puppy of his age.
 
#34 ·
Donna, Izzy has always had a great recall, but just today some rabbits were apparently far more exciting than me, or the treats she knew I had in my pocket. I think adolesence is kicking in with avengence. I remember when we got our pups, a few people here were going through this stage, and the long lead seemed to be the way to go. I am anticipating Izzy being in season soon, and intend to do a lot of lead training then, meanwhile, I am getting my house line out, and working on her recall.
Hope you, Mia and Buddy are all ok tonight :hug:
 
#35 ·
The way that man reacted was ridiculous. I probably would have lost it if i saw someone kicking my dog! Your poor little girl too. How awful.

Someone asked if you are never supposed to let your dog of lead in public and around here you aren't allowed. There is a leash by-law here and every park has a sign that says dogs must be on a leash at all times. Hence the reason for the dog parks we have around here. I do let Olive off leash is a huge nature park near my house as do other dog owners, but we're breaking the law as there is a big sign saying not to do that. Technically i could be fined for that. Last year a handful of people complained to our town about people letting their dogs off leash in the park and in a way i see their point. I personally don't mind a friendly dog coming up to me, but a lot of people don't and i hate when big dogs charge at me and my kids.

As a new dog owner i see the side of dog owners too. I love walking off leash with Olive. So much that i break the law to do it! I do not live in a dog friendly place at all.
 
#36 ·
What a horrible experience, I wonder if the guy was actually a bit nervous of other dogs himself but shows it through aggression, absolutely no excuse to act like he did though, especially around your daughter. Last year we looked after a border terrier a few weekends who was dog aggressive - if a pup bounced over to us I would shout to the owners that ours wasn't friendly. I certainly didn't yell at them. one occasion was difficult when a bouncy cocker pup was quite a way from her owners but when they finally got her we were all saying sorry to each other! That guy was obviously just an uneducated ******* (fill in word of your choice!)
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
Thanks everyone for the kind words,i think i underestimated how unpsetting this was for Mia she woke up in the night crying having a nightmare!

Im so angry im a very respossible owner (hence the reason i have been talking about how to better train Buddy when other dogs are around) but the more i think about it the more i believe this man was the problem.

Whenever Buddy's ran off to say hello the owner will stop let the dogs play while i catch up we will chat while they have fun and 9 times out of 10 i will pop his lead on and carry on walking.Shouting and screaming and kicking only seemed like a game to Buddy making him run around even more!
 
#38 ·
Poor Mia!!!!! I hope she manages to forget that idiot quickley.
Weller used to do this too and try as I might I couldn't get him to stop, the only thing that stopped him was a a couple of serious tellings off by other dogs. ( I am not recommending you just let Bud do what he wants and get himself into trouble) :). Just that I really struggled to curb my dogs natural excitment and curiosity. All training went out the window when something fun was happening but he grew up and now has brilliant doggy manners. He approaches but gives space, if he gets a bad vibe he gives the dog a wide bearth, or if a good vibe tigger bounces over to say hello.
However this whole episode has more to do with the owner than the dogs. I think this man could do with some more socialisation!!!
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
Ha ha Karen i agree!

What i dont understand is that i think Buddy has fab manners if he sees a dog approaching he lies on the ground he will then go up and have a sniff if the dog seems like he wants to play yes he will play but if he has a go at him he will give it space,he has met lots of different dogs little and small and im always amazing at how different he is with each one ,he's had very full on dogs jump on top of him (just very agressive play fighting nothing more) and he's lied on his back till theve gone ,he knows what to do in certain situations.This is way i thought the dogs were fine playing together they both looked happy??
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
Ha ha Karen i agree!

What i dont understand is that i think Buddy has fab manners if he sees a dog approaching he lies on the ground he will then go up and have a sniff if the dog seems like he wants to play yes he will play but if he has a go at him he will give it space,he has met lots of different dogs little and small and im always amazing at how different he is with each one ,he's had very full on dogs jump on top of him (just very agressive play fighting nothing more) and he's lied on his back till theve gone ,he knows what to do in certain situations.This is way i thought the dogs were fine playing together they both looked happy??
 
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