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Right ok... I may be going bonkers :confused: and appologise if it is just normal apricot, however when grooming Hope today I noticed at the base of the hair shafts in sections on her back very, very dark red coloured hair appears to be coming through (don't think the photos really show up how red or dark the base is, sorry, and it isn't dirt!! ;) )...

I am assuming at a distance she would be described as dark apricot? however from my previous observations I thought apricots tend to go lighter as they get older?

on her head the all the hair is the same pale coloured apricot from tip to shaft, but on her back each hair in areas have three different colours per strand:
base of shaft the very dark reddy colour
middle of strand very pale creamy colour
end/tip of strand pinky/dark apricot colour

Has anyone had experience of this colour of coat before?? Is it likely to grow all the way out resulting in her going darker over her back?? Is it possibly a red/apricot roan (if there is such a thing?????) or am I stupid and she is plain old apricot :laugh:

ooo the excitement of how cockapoo's coats change and grow... I am intrigued!!

top of her head - pale colour

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back - base very red/dark (appologies as best picture I could get!)

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Thanks xx
 
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Hi Helen .. first of all Hope is gorgeous :)

Have a peep in the changing coat feature on My Dogs Life ... she is very young and you are correct the Apricot coats can change and develop over time, various shades too ... she would be a great cockapoo to follow and I would love it if you are willing to let her join the changing coat feature :)
 
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That's really interesting Helen.

I'd love an apricot roan if there is such a thing? I'm sure JD may have had some?

Biscuit is an apricot parti and the patches on his face and top of head are fading a bit but the patches on his body seem to be staying put. The texture of the hair on his head is very silky but very fleecy on his body.

You may find the hair darker at the roots but then it may fade as it grows out?

It will be interesting to see what happens!
 
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Cockers come in an orange roan, although unless my memeory fails me I dont think I've seen an orange roan cockapoo, I don't mean that there wont be such a thing just dont think I've seen them. When I was searching for a blue roan I was told by a breeder they did nt exist... I knew they did , subsequently he is now breeding them !!! The American sites may have pictures. Sylmls have a lot of lemon roan so I could imagine they may have orange x
 
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I did see a breeders advert that said she had a stunning male apricot roan left but that maybe to the breeder's discretion as to whether he was truly a roan. On the JD website, under testimonials, there is a stunning apricot dog called Dizzee. He has a real scattering of cream apricot all over and I wondered if he was a roan? I think it should be possible if bred from an orange roan cocker?
 
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Hope is beautiful!! she is definately not roan because roans are born looking like partis.Many apricot and red pups change,miley my red cockapoo went from being red,to a blond/red to red with a blond head.it could be that she is actually going to get darker with age as many do xxx
 
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Ali79 said:
Beau's fur grows the same as Hope but Beau is much paler. I have included photos below to show how her fur grows :)

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She has quite dark apricot tips to her fur, then pale, buff, dark etc :)
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Thanks Ali, Beau is beatiful... The changes in the coat is so fascinating!! Looking at the close up photos of Beau's fur though it looks to me the same as Julie from jukees put description and photos on a previous post of one of her choccy roans... She described the roans as being like the Pattern on a tree, then showed a photo of the dryer blowing the hair apart to show it clearly...

I am new to all this, but following that theory then could Beau be roan?? :confused:
 
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mandym said:
Hope is beautiful!! she is definately not roan because roans are born looking like partis.Many apricot and red pups change,miley my red cockapoo went from being red,to a blond/red to red with a blond head.it could be that she is actually going to get darker with age as many do xxx
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Thank you Mandy... However you have made me sulk as I thought she may have been roan :p. How can you tell parti's when the white, cream, apricot and reds are such similar colours, so not as obvious as white with brown/black parti??

We still love her no matter what, but I would have loved it if she had been a rare coloured roan :) As I mentioned above I thought roan was if there were different layers of colour on each strand of hair, thus causing the effect of the roan like on mandys photos of beau... Could it not be orange/red roaning (by any chance??)

Thanks xx
 
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NellyBean said:
Thanks Ali, Beau is beatiful... The changes in the coat is so fascinating!! Looking at the close up photos of Beau's fur though it looks to me the same as Julie from jukees put description and photos on a previous post of one of her choccy roans... She described the roans as being like the Pattern on a tree, then showed a photo of the dryer blowing the hair apart to show it clearly...

I am new to all this, but following that theory then could Beau be roan?? :confused:
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Thanks Helen :) Love the description that Julia has given though not sure what Beau is though the amount of stripes perhaps she is the dog version of a zebra ;)
 
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