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Thank you I think because I associate my last bad attack with our last puppy I feel it is going to happen again however I don't feel I can move on or feel complete if I don't succeed at the one thing I have always wanted.I realise that I have lost the trust of my family and friends because of my past history with dogs and I now feel a bit embarrassed to ask for their help
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It is sometimes difficult for people to really understand if they've not been there. Explain how you feel & I guarantee that true friends will try to understand & help. Never feel embarrassed to ask for help.

Also as soon as you take your bundle out for walks you will receive moral support from all the lovely dog owners you meet - all of whom will want to cuddle pup.

And the help here is fantastic - without fail I have had answers & help whenever I've asked. Cyber-friends are super :)
 
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Just speaking to everyone on here is making me feel better and more confident already.I just really really don't want my anxiety to stop me from having what I have always hoped one day I would have the chance to experience :))
 

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I've actually been diagnosed with generalized anxiety and it was definitely a challenge for me in the beginning with Roxie. This is my first dog and I don't have any kids so I wasn't quite prepared for the life change so the first month or so was hard for me and I think I had a little "post puppy depression". Now with all that being said, things have definitely changed. Roxie is the cutest and well behaved pup!! I've had to work since day 1 with her so she's been able to hold her pee for at least 5 hours since 8 weeks old. We did a 6 week puppy class and she picked up the skills very quickly. From what I've seen and heard about other pups, cockapoos are the way to go. I think you can do it but maybe get one 12 wks or older if you want to bypass some of the puppy stage....
 

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If you Google 'Cockapoo Puppies for sale Dartford' then more ads for these puppies come up including this one http://www.gumtree.com/p/pets/cockapoo-pups/100167827 which has a lot more pictures.

It looks like Mummy is a show Cocker... It would be worth calling them and checking the age as (and I may well be wrong) in one of the pictures the puppies look a bit big to be nine weeks old. Or perhaps they're just a chucky, healthy litter!

I'd ask to see the PRA certificate too :)
 

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Thanks Turi.We phoned last night and they seem like nice people.The pups are apparently raised indoors,this is the first litter,mum is 3 years old,they have been wormed, they are willing to hold on to her until she is 12 weeks and get her jabs done,they don't have had but they do have photos and the man said that although they have done no health testing a lady that has had a puppy has had the puppy tested and it is clear ?? If she is still there tomorrow then we are going to have a look. How would I know if they are older than he says?
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I’d steer clear… either the Poodle sire is PRA tested or it isn’t! Their advert says that it is so to backtrack on something so important is a bit fishy.

Also, if you are going to get a puppy at a later age (i.e. 12 weeks) you want to be 100% sure that the owners will socialise the puppy in the way you would if you brought him/her home at eight weeks. This would include but not be limited to:

- Car rides
- Walks in the park
- Older dogs
- Other puppies
- Children
- The vet
- Being bathed
- Loud household noises
- etc

That’s not to mention the important training that takes place in the early days – housetraining, general manners, walking well on the lead.

I love the early days with Saffi… although they were stressful they were vital for bonding and also getting her used to our lives, our household rules and our routine.
 

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Kay did you just leave Roxie From day one,Did she bark at all.I am just worried about a pup making a lot of noise for the neighbours or developing separation anxiety
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Turi I'm confused.Some are saying to go for a slightly older pup to avoid some of the things that would make me anxious and you are saying not to go for an older pup.?
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Shall I ask about why the ad says they are and then he said they aren't.I think another problem is is that I am quite restricted by the price.Because of my past history and the fact that we parted with £250 for the rescue dog my hubby is only willing to spend £500.
 

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Turi I have re read the ad and I think what he means is that the dad is pra clear but that he has done no health tests himself?
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I may be wrong but there is no way of knowing if a dog is PRA clear unless they have the test themselves. Someone else might know more about this…? JoJo is good on health testing!

Re the price… paying less for a dog is a false economy long-term. If you get a dog from parents that haven’t been health tested then later down the line you may end up paying more in vets bills.

I hope this doesn’t come across in a harsh way but why don’t you wait until you have a higher budget to play with? The early days in themselves are expensive – Saffi's puppy classes were £100, her second jab cost around £50 and then her worming and flea treatments came to £40… then she had to have her anal glands expressed which cost £30.

This doesn’t include the cost of a crate, food, toys… believe me, it all tots up.
 

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No it doesn't sound harsh Turi and I have researched and made plans for such things as insurance,jabs etc.I have already got a crate,lead,collar,chew toys,books,bed,bowls,traing treats etc.Our puppy classes are £50.However understandably hubby is reluctant to part with £700-800 for what he calls a cross breed.He has always had dogs as a child and keeps reminding me that his parents only ever paid £100 for a dog :)) I am really trying to convince him that they are worth it.
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It sounds like you’re really organised :)

I can see your husband’s point of view but the cost of a ‘good quality’ Cockapoo is justifiable. We saved and were prepared to pay up to £1000 for a Cockapoo

- Whose parents had both been hip scored;
- Whose Poodle father had been PRA tested clear;
- That had been raised inside;
- That had been well socialised (our breeder doesn’t work so she is with the puppies all the time);
- From a breeder who’d stay in touch and help if necessary after the purchase;
- From a breeder that would be prepared to take the puppy back if there were any problems…

In fact I’d part with the money for any dog that had had this start in life.

You may well find a Cockapoo or another dog cheaply but you might risk not knowing where they’ve come from, what health problems might be inherent etc…

Hope that’s given you some ‘ammunition’ for conversations with you hubby!
 

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It sounds like you’re really organised :)

- Whose parents had both been hip scored;
- Whose Poodle father had been PRA tested clear;
- That had been raised inside;
- That had been well socialised (our breeder doesn’t work so she is with the puppies all the time);
- From a breeder who’d stay in touch and help if necessary after the purchase;
- From a breeder that would be prepared to take the puppy back if there were any problems…
These are really good points Turi and things I have been thinking about when looking for a puppy. However, I have to say it has been very hard to find breeders, both commercial and hobby, that hip score the parents. I have only found 2 breeders that have said they do this on their websites. Disappointing when you want to get a puppy that's as healthy as possible. I still can't believe I have to wait another 3 months for my puppy. The waiting is hard!!
 

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No it doesn't sound harsh Turi and I have researched and made plans for such things as insurance,jabs etc.I have already got a crate,lead,collar,chew toys,books,bed,bowls,traing treats etc.Our puppy classes are £50.However understandably hubby is reluctant to part with £700-800 for what he calls a cross breed.He has always had dogs as a child and keeps reminding me that his parents only ever paid £100 for a dog :)) I am really trying to convince him that they are worth it.
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yes i agree they are alot of money,which is why you need to make sure that you do choose one that has had relevant health checks,(or parents have) and is raised in a clean happy environment because sadly lots of pups are not getting this care, and are still the same price!, it took me three years to finally decide to go for it, and get a cockapoo puppy, a decision i have not for one minute regretted, you only get one chance at life, to do all the things you want to do, but anyone considering buying ANY puppy , needs to think of the long term commitment, ,holidays, walks in the rain, i am not trying to put you or anybody else off, but dogs are life changing.
 

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These are really good points Turi and things I have been thinking about when looking for a puppy. However, I have to say it has been very hard to find breeders, both commercial and hobby, that hip score the parents. I have only found 2 breeders that have said they do this on their websites. Disappointing when you want to get a puppy that's as healthy as possible. I still can't believe I have to wait another 3 months for my puppy. The waiting is hard!!
Hi Eleanor!

How are you?

After the Bushy Park meet which cross have you decided to go for? :)

Which breeders are you looking at?

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Hello Turi!

The Bushy Park meet was such a great experience for me, I loved seeing all the dogs. They were all gorgeous. Looking at pictures of cockapoos is one thing but seeing them in the flesh made the obsession even worse!

I am definitely going ahead with getting one. Have spoken to both Marleydoodles and Sylml so they could both be a possibility. Thirza of marleydoodles has been very helpful with answering my enquiries, the only issue i might have with one of her pups is timing as i really need to get a puppy in late july/early august if possible when i'm off for the summer holidays.

I love the look of the american crosses more BUT have been put off americans having done research onto the health problems that some american cocker spaniels can face (more than english from what i can see). So then it's looking like a show/minature poodle cross for me!

Watch this space!

Chumphreys - I can totally sympathise with your worries, i am having them all the time! But the people on these forums have been great at making me feel more confident about getting a dog! :)
 

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I’m so glad you enjoyed it! I understand the obsession bit though… Marcus and I went to a meet six months before we got Saffi and it was torchure!

Marleydoodles produce some beautiful puppies – there are a few on here. Benji (who was at the meet), Wynny and Oakley too.

I personally have reservations regarding Sylml – I know some people have had good experiences with them but there was a thread recently detailing a very sick puppy and the Sylvia’s response (or lack thereof). Do a search for ‘Hope’.

How about Anzil – I know Anthony’s quite far in Liverpool but his show pups are just gorgeous!

Or if you are interested in an American then there is DebbiesDoodles in Surrey…
 
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