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Apologies as I am sure this info is already on here but I couldn't find it.
I am keen to switch Riley to a mostly raw diet, he is currently on barking heads but has a chicken wing meal a couple of times a week and a tin of sardines sometimes instead of a dry meal.
Today I bought a small pack of prize choice mince and want to try him later but I am confused about the veg. Which veg is suitable and should this be raw too? I understand potatoes/rice are also good to mix in and these would have to be cooked?
Lastly, am I right to say it should be roughly 10% bodyweight made up with meat and veg/rice?
Sorry so many questions!
 

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I use Natural instincts who do all the guess work for you. Have a look at their web site they are so friendly, helpful and efficient and Pushca loves it. My sister does her own and puts half cooked veg with the raw meat. I just don't have the time so NI is just perfect. Chicken wings as a treat and any tinned fish
Hope this helps
 

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Thank you Deb, can I ask do you find it a cost effective way to feed pushca, I'm not sure of quantities but it seems like a 1kg box would prob be enough for a week with some chicken wing and fish meals too?
Also what is in the box? Is it packaged into 100g meals or if not how do you take out the fit amount if it is frozen?
Website is good but couldn't see a pic of actual product

THanks and sorry for all the questions
TRacey
 

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Hi Tracey
It comes in 1kg tubs frozen so I defrost one but you can give it still frozen, especially if it's hot outside. I give my 10kg pup 2% twice a day so I sort of scour it into 8 portions. So she has 2 portions daily. But if you call them they are more than happy to help you as the portions look small next to regular dog food and i thought she'd starve! It is very cost effective ad I don't have any waste. It transports well if you are going out in Tupperware dishes
Yes 1kg would last me four days but like you say with the wings and fish and smaller portions for a puppy you would easily get one week out of it.
Pushca looooves the tripe and they do a new salmon and chicken which she just loved.
Ah I really hope that helps I just think it's great and Pushca looks amazing
Biased? Me?
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Wow!, impressive!
Karen, do you lightly cook your veg? I think I would like to try and make myself as have the time and might be a bit cheaper than NI?.
You wouldn't have a recipe to get me going would you?.
Guessing you then freeze?
 

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Yes its cheaper and yes then I freeze. I must add that using garlic is quite contentious as I have read (somewhere on here ) that garlic is one of the foods that dogs are nt allowed, however I dont always put it in and dont always use the exact same veg. But the info i got re Barf feeding was from Dr Ian Billinghursts books "Give your dog a bone" " Grow your pup on bones" (might be with bones) he claims to be the original Barf pioneer. Even if you dont get his books there is alot of his info available on the net.
Also apparently tomatoes are said to be a no go but when i googled this it states that green or unripened tomatoes contain tomatine which can be poisonous, but when the fruit is ripe they are ok to give, dont give any of the leaves or stalk of the tomatoe, these are also poisonous to humans. So I suppose adding these is a personal choice, but my veg is nt always the same.... that was Oct/Nov batch I'm sure it comes in under £20 and last 8/9 weeks for 2 dogs but most nights get a chicken wing x P.S its all raw, egg shell an' all x
 

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Very impressive Karen, how long does it take you to do all the prep and have it ready for the freezer.

The NI also comes in 450g tubs too which lasts two days. As a guide to feeding NI, it is 2 or 3 % food to their body weight. Millie is just under 10kg so she would have between 200 & 300g of food per day. She's a small eater so I work towards the 200g.
 

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About an hour and I freeze it in 400g like the smalller NI packs... a little messy but worth it. I did nt think mine would eat the veg on its own but when Stephen posted either a post or pictures of their dogs eating just the veg I tried mine without the meat ... which inc the eggs, yogurt, cottage cheese and oil and they surprised me and ate it... it smells nice but was green x

 

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Karen, I am seriously impressed with Wilf and Mable's diet!!! I am tempted with raw but only have a small fridge freezer so not really practical. Just a quick question though.............does the veg mix create an increase in bottom gas??
 

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Thanks Karen, so do you cook any of the veg to soften it before blending? Wow I thought I was done with whizzing food up and freezing in batches now my children are older but think my Braun blender may be coming out of hibernation!
 

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Yeh your right the bowls definitely should be the other way around cos Wilf is my ickle Princess. Tracy the veg just gets choppped then blitzed on its own raw and then I whiz it again with the hand blender with the other nigredients yogurt etc in a washing up bowl, add the chicken carcass and freeze. No wind issues Karen, infact mine are so polite lol... no never notice any at all, just make smaller amounts that you can accomodate, although did purchase a small chest freezer for garage that was cheap cos it had a dint in it. Julie mine would nt just eat a piece of veg on its own... Mable would nt eat any Wilf would eat a piece of cucumber and once upon a time would eat carrot peelings as I was cooking but wont anymore so you might be surprised . x
 

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Thanks so much Karen, you are a star!
I am actually quite excited to get going, not had any luck with local butchers tho as the two I have tried so far won't mince the carcasses as say it blunts their machine! Have another couple to try so not giving up and if all esle fails will buy the prize choice mince from Pets at home. Have given raw mince and veg past 2 days and Riley loved it, he happily eats a raw carrot so am hoping he will continue to love the meat/veg mix.
How much hemp oil do you use, just a tablespoon? Been reading a book I bought 'Natural Nutrition for dogs and cats' and it suggests adding seeds too so am going to give that whirl. Will let you know and thanks so much for all the info
Tracey
 

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Oh Tess as much as Im more than happy to choose to feed mine this way and did get my info from a reliable source, dont think Id be happy to take it any further, its a big ask to suggest that you are providing a totally balanced diet for someone elses dog. Shame Im not closer though would be happy to provide samples for people to get an idea before they come up with their own x x
 

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Similar stuff really just thought it maybe of some interest ....







The meat is chicken carcass that the butcher puts through the mincer x
Hi Karen, just wanted to thank you for all yr help, just finished a stint in the kitchens and now have a few meals which look roughly like yours! Am hopeful Riley will appreciate the effort as it is a lot of work and I have been advised to feed him 10% of body weight which seems a huge amount so meals I have made won't go far! Thanks again x
 
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