I put Tiffin and Luna in crates in my office, where all of our house dogs sleep, for the first time last night at about 10.30pm. They both then proceeded to HOWL very loudly in my ear for 2 hours. (We don't have neighbours....or friends LOL !!) I had been up all of the previous night ;-) so they helped in keeping me awake while I caught up answering e-mails. They then settled down and the howls toned down into occasional moans, we then put Buzz, Yum-Yum, Fester and Ziggy to bed in their crates in the same room. Not a peep all night. I had to wake Tiffin and Luna up at 8 am took them outside (in the rain ) and they both had a poo. Good girls.