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I just had a dog groomer come to the house to sort out Dexter's mats. I mentioned he was very good apart from pulling on the lead. She has gun dogs and trains dogs and also breeds them and lhasa apsos. She said I should get a slip lead. She got one out of her car,put one on Dexter then walked up and down the street and got me to do it. Immediately there was an improvement. I asked if they were dangerous or if it was hurting him and she assured me that all gun dog owners (and many others) use them and they're perfectly safe.

Can I please have your expert opinions on this? It certainly would be lovely if Dexter pulled less on the lead.
 

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It's basically a non stretchy 'rope' lead that goes around the dog's neck,just behind the ears and sort of just under the jaw. It's not a choke lead. You're holding the dog in a different way and it sits at the top of the neck.Here's one on ebay,I haven't read any research about them yet,I wanted to get people's opinions first.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SLIP-LEAD..._Dogs&var=&hash=item896295f944#ht_3562wt_1270
 

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A slip lead works under the same principle as a choke chain. It is a rope lasso type lead, it is true they are used a lot for gun dogs but bear in mind these dogs are normally very well trained and walk on a loose lead anyway. I have one for Weller but don't use it that often, normally if I just want to put home somewhere quickly, as you just slip it over they head and away you go. We used them lots in the kennels too for the greyhounds as doing up and undoing collars all the time takes a lot more time, so they were used as time savers really.
They are fine to use on your dog if the doghas some lead manners already but not so sure they will cure pulling without choking the dog.
 

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It's basically a non stretchy 'rope' lead that goes around the dog's neck,just behind the ears and sort of just under the jaw. It's not a choke lead. You're holding the dog in a different way and it sits at the top of the neck.Here's one on ebay,I haven't read any research about them yet,I wanted to get people's opinions first.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SLIP-LEAD..._Dogs&var=&hash=item896295f944#ht_3562wt_1270
I see, thank you. I think Cesar Milan AKA The Dog Whisperer always uses that kind.
 

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we use them at the kennels too, it make things easier with nervous dogs as you don't need to fuss about their collar. a quick on off. also they can sip out or it or its very unlikely.

but if your going to use them for training they need to be used properly, so the dog does learn to walk on a loose lead other wise the dog it just choking its self all the time. which defeats the porpose of it.

if your a Cesar fan he used them all the time.


and remember even though its just a bit of rope their is still a right and a wrong way of putting it on.
 

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I use them with my dogs and i have quite a selection now.Theyre also ideal for clients that put their dogs to me with collars that are far too loose,with the slip lead theyre very safe and wont slip over the dogs head at all. xxx
 

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I use them with my dogs and i have quite a selection now.Theyre also ideal for clients that put their dogs to me with collars that are far too loose,with the slip lead theyre very safe and wont slip over the dogs head at all. xxx
that is so anoying, so many collie and spanials that have collers that you could easily fit on an GSD or a rottie without needing to agust it. a loos collar is a possible death sentance for a dog.
 

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that is so anoying, so many collie and spanials that have collers that you could easily fit on an GSD or a rottie without needing to agust it. a loos collar is a possible death sentance for a dog.
Yes its very annoying,ive had a couple that have easily wriggled out of their collars whichn is why i bought a supply of slip leads,i wouldnt be without them xxx
 

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Good luck with it, I think they are fine if your dog learns not to pull - some seem to build up a strong neck and don't seem to care if they are getting half strangled!! a lot of show dogs are shown using very fine slip leads. They are very easy to put on and off without having to hold a collar as you can just make a large loop and put it over the dogs head. I've got one for when Dudley is older.
 

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Buddy is a puller ! He's very big for a cockapoo and strong i have a slip lead and when i use it for walks he still pull's the only thing i have found that works for him is a gentle leader it goes over the nose and so the dog will not pull and choke himself.
Buddy walks like a different dog with this ,its amazing .
 

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i find the gentle leader to be very simmiler to a slip lead the nose bit keeps just keeps the lead in the rite place on the neck.
How's it similar Kendal? the slip lead goes around the dogs neck and tighten's as he pulls (hence dog will still make that awful chokeing noise) he will also learn to have tension in his neck hindering your progress for a loose lead walk.

And the gentle leader goes over the nose so when they try to pull the lead(and you can) pull their head to the side rather then them pulling and pulling with their neck.Hence the dog does not pull as he hasnt got the stength of his whole body to pull.

I would say after 3 walks with the leader Buddy stopped pulling altogether he is a strong dog and could pull and pull me even though he was chokeing himself to death,ive found this the only way to have a loose lead walk with him.

Ive also tryed the Gencon lead which is similar to the gentle leader but because it had no way of locking it off to correct size Buddy would even pull on this so it just shows how much of a puller he was.
 

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How's it similar Kendal? the slip lead goes around the dogs neck and tighten's as he pulls (hence dog will still make that awful chokeing noise) he will also learn to have tension in his neck hindering your progress for a loose lead walk.

And the gentle leader goes over the nose so when they try to pull the lead(and you can) pull their head to the side rather then them pulling and pulling with their neck.Hence the dog does not pull as he hasnt got the stength of his whole body to pull.

I would say after 3 walks with the leader Buddy stopped pulling altogether he is a strong dog and could pull and pull me even though he was chokeing himself to death,ive found this the only way to have a loose lead walk with him.

Ive also tryed the Gencon lead which is similar to the gentle leader but because it had no way of locking it off to correct size Buddy would even pull on this so it just shows how much of a puller he was.

Wooops sorry i was thinking gencon when i red your post, its the gencon thats a slip lead but the bit.over the nose keeps the lead high up and in the right position. sorry.


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Phew thanks Kendal thought i was going mad lol !

Yea Gencon and gentle leader are the same apart from one major difference the gentle leader has the clip underneath which for me made the difference ,Buddy is a strong boy and would carry on pulling with the gencon which then would tighten and tighten so for him it didnt work.
 

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Arthur has a Gencon and he still has a good go at pulling on it. It worked for a bit and to be honest it still does when he is on his own but as soon as we walk anywhere with the girls or as a family he pulls like mad. We do practice (me more than the husband as I have the kids and dog most of the time) bur I admit we need to do more training with him in this respect but I think I'll try a gentle leader.
 

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Arthur has a Gencon and he still has a good go at pulling on it. It worked for a bit and to be honest it still does when he is on his own but as soon as we walk anywhere with the girls or as a family he pulls like mad. We do practice (me more than the husband as I have the kids and dog most of the time) bur I admit we need to do more training with him in this respect but I think I'll try a gentle leader.
Yes do try it Buddy will still have ago when kids/people other dogs are around but he soon carms down and realise's it dosnt help, with the gencon he just kept trying till he was chokeing again.
 
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