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Get the largest crate you can fit into the space you have for it.

Think about it this way, if you are going to be stuck in a crate for hours, do you want food, water, toys, blankets, room to pace and stretch, or just enough room to lay down? During puppyhood you can use the divider tell the pup understands, then you can get the pup the whole crate.

At the least, get the measurements of the largest parent, then get a crate that would be roomy for this dog.
 

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It really depends whether you are using the crate in the car or at home. If the crate is used in the car it should actually be as small as possible, to prevent injuries in a car crash. Such a crate would not be suitable if you plan to keep the dog in the crate over night or when you're at work.
 

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Ideally i wanted to use it for indoors and in the car. I only work 3 hours a week and sort of as and when they need me. So the pup shouldnt be in the crate for any longer than 4 hours.

Is it best to add the toilet area in the crate too during the day aswell as night?
 

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Ideally i wanted to use it for indoors and in the car. I only work 3 hours a week and sort of as and when they need me. So the pup shouldnt be in the crate for any longer than 4 hours.

Is it best to add the toilet area in the crate too during the day aswell as night?
fo me that i the last thing you want to do, as the point of the crate is that they learn to hold their toilet, if you give them a toilet aria within the crate you are defeating the purpose of it.
 

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Okay i wasnt sure i think when my nanna had her cockerspaniel she did that, but i agree with what your saying, what do you recommend? this is my first dog, shut the dog in the kitchen with the crate open to sleep in, or shut the crate and try get the pup to wait to go to the loo first thing in morning?

I appreciate all your help and advice x
 

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the pup will cry in the crate but just leave the pup to cry they settle down eventualy. you can clse the crate door then go down like 2am and let the pup out for pees. but dont wake the pup, if they dont need out then you can leave it till they wake up themselve.
 

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We had a small crate that the breeder gave us for Rufus when he was small, and now that he is getting better we actually just got a 30'' so he will have more room to move around whenever we need to put him in it. He's never in there very long except at night but it's good to have the option if necessary and don't want him to get too cramped in the small one. Though it would be good in the car.
 

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We have the 36" one and divided it almost in half when Rosie was small (with cardboard boxes, which she regularly ripped up and we replaced!). It just about fit in the boot of our large estate car, but certainly wouldn't have gone in one any smaller! So, I'd think about what you want to do with it.

If you want to do crate training, then smaller is better to begin with (but remember you can divide them), if you want to use it in the car, then measure your car and maybe look online for ones with sloping sides that fit in the boot more easily (we've now got a manufacturer's fitted cage in our new car). If you just want it as a place to put your dog to keep her secure every now and then, then bigger is fine, I guess, or you could buy a play pen?
 
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